Occult Science Radio interviews Jan Irvin

The incomparable Jan Irvin, host of the popular Gnostic Media Radio podcast visits Occult Science Radio With host Curtis "Illuminated One" Davis to discuss the Trivium, the Quadrivium and Magic Mushrooms. April 30, 2012.




  15 comments for “Occult Science Radio interviews Jan Irvin

  1. Ryan Caron
    May 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    Good stuff as always Jan.

  2. stan
    May 4, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    What did you mean by following your passion? What is passion?

    I found out that the Ron Paul Revolution was a cult of personality back in July of 2008. I was one of the first Ron Paul supporters out there. A person working for the government trying to destory that government was too obvious a contradiction for me to follow that 77 year old opportunistic piece of crap. His ties to the Jewish Mises institute and Jewish Ayn Rand recks with Jewish control over Ron Paul thinking. And you guys though he was against funding Israel? Ha-ha-ha. He is pro-Israel as any Republican candidate. As Gilad Atzmon said on your show, Anti-Zionist Jew is no different than a Zionist Jew.

    Currently, I am learning logical fallacies. Some are more obvious to catch than others. my question is, are they infinite or finite? Can a person learn all the logical fallacies out there?

    As a college student and delusional believer in the logical fallacy that a college degree will get me a job, I am starting to see, based on my own experience at my university that self-education is the only education possible to attain. Professors at my university are so obviously flawed and are so fixed on regurgitating course content and the delusional belief in the effectiveness of the university education system. They still do not want to admit that the system that they are part of never worked to begin with and is crumbling, not becasue of funding, but because it is all based on a fallacy that someone else can do the teaching for you.

  3. Nicole
    May 5, 2012 at 7:45 am

    What he means by “passion” is that thing that turns you on so to speak. That you love to do. For Jan his passion would be waking people up, sharing hidden knowledge, being a writer/publisher, making documentaries about the subjects he is passionate about. Instead of opting for a college education which trains you to be a cog in the system.

  4. Richard Gray
    May 7, 2012 at 10:29 am

    And Evans Schultes ? Oddly no mention of him at all…you know, from Harvard ? the explorer mycologist ?

    • Jan Irvin
      May 7, 2012 at 10:52 am

      Why is it oddly? We went by the ingterviewers questions. Just because it didn’t come up in the 45 minutes that we talked about that doesn’t mean he’s not there. Oddly… WTF.

      Yeah, I know, from Harvard. No, he wasn’t a mycologist, he was a botanist. We’ve even played one of his lectures on this show. Ffft.

  5. Richard Gray
    May 7, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Oddly, because he was in with the loose cabal of intel boys that you seem to be talking about (Puharich, etc.) who initially sought out Maria Sabina, no ?

  6. Richard Gray
    May 7, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Off-topic, but: “Endo-cannibanoids” make you paranoid if not maintained in balance in the brain ? What would be the strain(s) that DON’T eventuate in paranoia with use of cannabis ? What are they called at the cannabis outlets ? I’ve come to find potheads utterly tedious to interact with given their slowed wits, erratic paranoias and memory glitches, and delusionary sense of superior selves.

    • Jan Irvin
      May 7, 2012 at 3:20 pm

      That’s exactly how I feel, Richard, about people who make sweeping generalizations like yours – they have a delusional sense of superior self and all – looking down on potheads, tossing fallacies like some holier than thow, pompous moron, etc, not being able to see their own hypocrisy if it stared them in the face because they’re so goddamned slow witted.

      Oddly, we’re focused on the origins of magic mushrooms and the field of enthnomycology, which pertains mostly to Wasson. If you were interested in ethnobotany, we might be more focused on Schutes, et al. But since this is the first time anyone has ever presented this info anywhere, you should be happy rather than sneering down your nose like some pompous asshole. And oddly, it was a radio interview, not the book or DVD production that we’ve been working to raise funds for to put the very information out that your limited self is complaining about. I haven’t seen you donate to the project, so if you don’t like what’s available, you can’t complain.

      endocannabinoids regulate your entire synaptic system. The research is being done now on exactly what cannabinoids effect what such as at UC San Diego and U of Denver. As I’m not a scientist in this specific area, why don’t you contact one who is? I bet since you’re not delusionary you might be able to even handle a Google search to begin your own research- since you’re without memory glitches, erratic paranoias, etc, and obviously free of any sweeping generalizations or ad hominem attacks that would make you appear as an intellectually bankrupt buffoon. Oh, that last part was a mistake.

      • BJ from MINNESOTA
        May 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm

        Clearly Richard does not know much about the human body and cannabinoids, If people only knew that the science of cannabinoids could literally change the entire medical knowledge we know today, the effects on aging, brain functioning, and body defenses. Even every single skin cell has its own cannabinoid receptor.

        • February 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm

          If you are able, please post links to citations for ubiquity of cannabinoid receptors. I’m particularly interested in research on such receptors being prominent in fetal brains. Thanks.

        • February 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm

          also, MN rocks!

  7. Richard Gray
    May 7, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Whoa ! Didn’t mean it like THAT. I love your site. Especially since as of late you’ve been kicking up the editorial tenor. I didn’t mean to imply judgement on your cannabis habits if that’s what you thought. Nor am I intending to besmirch the Herer, hemp-as-key-resource, solution to current industrial ills. No doubt,(oddly ?) it’s MY local pothead varietal types that are probably getting to me (location, location !). I recently was witness to a local self-elected “psychonaut priest” bullying an obviously at wit’s end individual to dose “for his own good” and then have it all go terribly wrong. Which was promptly blamed on the individual’s imbalanced past. I’ll send some dough, though….

  8. Jeanmarie
    May 8, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Great interview, Jan! A much more concise presentation of the Trivium and Quadrivium than I’ve heard before. I appreciate your work so much and hope to be in a position to provide financial support soon.

  9. February 5, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Jan, great work all around. Thanks much.

    Having said that, I think Leary remains a challenge. I did find it odd that McKenna operated so much in the open, without legal hassles. Also Sasha Shulgin. He was practically daring the authorities to come after him. These guys seemed to orbit above the fray.

    Leary, though, got busted and served hard time. He must have wandered off script. He was accused of cooperating with authorities to get out of jail, and maybe he did fink on some contacts. Maybe he was cast as a scapegoat.

    & his associate, Richard Alpert, aka Baba Ram Dass, was born of a moneyed family–east coast corporate wealth. I think his father was a railroad/banking baron. Also,–crap, I’m wrecking my own thesis, I think–Leary was the son of a military man, like the Laurel Canyon crowd. Arrrrgh! I’m in The Truman Show. any chance to interview Dave McGowan about Laurel Canyon?

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